NBA|【键盘侠】格里芬回应争议|傻芬有这逻辑正常&100万的活我也能干

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Blake Griffin on reaction to him & Aldridge signing with the Nets: "It’s kind of funny to me, because for the last couple years all I’ve heard is how bad I am. You sign with this team and everybody’s like, ‘that’s not fair!’”

布雷克-格里芬回应外界关于他和阿尔德里奇加盟篮网的争议:“对我来说有点好笑,因为过去这些年我听到的都是我有多差的声音。然后我加盟篮网了,大家又都在说‘这不公平!’”


[–]NBAiRockaflame 7413 指標 10小時前

Once he dunked it became unfair

一旦格里芬扣了篮,就变得不公平了。

[–]NBATylerNY315_ 2350 指標 9小時前*

A lot of people thought he was dogging it to tank his value and DET's interest in playing/keeping him - which I think was a bit of a stretch, but when he dunked (edit: for the first time in 2 seasons) for his first bucket as a Net after people predicting him doing so, and then caught an oop while dropping 17 the other day, it definitely confirmed a lot of peoples' bias lol

许多人认为他之前在估计降低自身的价值,让活塞没有兴趣再留下他,一开始我觉得这种说法有些夸张。但是当他去到篮网后第一球就是扣篮,准确来说这是他近两个赛季第一次扣篮,和外界的猜测不谋而合。之后又在比赛里砍下17分,和哈登完成了一次空接,这不坐实了外界对他之前故意不好好打的猜测,哈哈哈哈。

[–]WarriorsThe_Void_Reaver 1060 指標 9小時前

Blake gave the Pistons a lot in their last playoff appearance despite the fact he easily could have sat with a rather severe nagging injury. The Pistons decided they'd try and rebuild, likely tried to trade Blake but couldn't find a partner and ultimately knew that Blake wasn't going to risk injury for the 29th best team in the league.

Anyone who actually thought Blake was giving it his all in Detroit was on something, but his injury history and lack of quickness still make him iffy at best and a potential target for other teams in the playoffs. Just because he's giving effort now doesn't magically mean he'll be a game changer.

勇士球迷:格里芬在活塞上次季后赛之旅付出了很多,即使冒着容易伤病恶化的风险也在所不惜。活塞决定尝试重建之后,想要交易走格里芬但是找不到下家,后来也知道了格里芬不会为了一支联盟倒数第二的球队冒着伤病风险打球。

那些认为格里芬在活塞付出了一切的人也是有原因的,但是他的伤病史和移动速度的下降仍然是他维持最佳状态的不确定因素,这点会成为季后赛对手的突破口。不能仅仅因为格里芬现在打得很努力,就说他已经拥有改变比赛的能力了。

[–]CelticsProphet_Of_Helix 800 指標 8小時前

I think people are confusing two different things. You can suck at being a star but still be too good as the fucking 100000th option on another team.

No one is seriously saying it’s bullshit that Blake and LA are going to the Nets for peanuts because they are going to transform the starting lineup, it’s because they are still undervalued as a role player even if they are overvalued as a star.

It’s especially annoying when it’s clearly ring chasing.

凯尔特人球迷:我认为人们弄混了两个完全不同的事情,一个不合格的球星,和在另一支队伍成为顶级的100000号进攻选择并不冲突。底薪加盟的格里芬和阿尔德里奇会影响篮网的首发阵容,这点没有人会反对吧,虽然他们作为球星被高估了,但价值却远远不止于角色球员。尤其是他们明摆着为了总冠军戒指来的,这就更让人恼火。

[–]DaddyLH 86 指標 8小時前

Nice summation. Being the best player on a team and being criticized is one thing. It’s another to join a team as the 4th option and know you’ve been an all star the majority of your career. Comparing criticism between those scenarios is apples to oranges. Not comparable. No team wouldn’t want Blake Griffin as the #4 guy on the offense.

总结的很好,作为一个队伍当家球星被批评是一回事,职业生涯大部分时间处于全明星水准,如今以第四选择的身份加盟其他球队又是另一回事。两种情况天差地别,没有可比性。没有哪个球队不愿意引进格里芬在进攻端扮演第四选择的角色。

[–]Supersonics812many 14 指標 7小時前

Carmelo up in Portland I’m sure would agree.

超音速球迷:远在波特兰的安东尼对你的看法表达了认可。


[–]SunsTheConboy22 520 指標 7小時前

What's BS is that they are getting them for absolutely nothing. I don't care about where they play, but you cannot go from making 36m and then go somewhere else and still be paid from the first team while playing for like 2m. You should have a cap hit of some sort.

太阳球迷:最离谱的是篮网得到他们两位什么也没付出,我不在乎他们在哪打球,但是你不能离开3600万年薪的队伍,拿着200万薪水给新球队打球,同时还能拿到前东家付给你的薪水,做什么事都得讲个底线吧。

[–]KingsAdmira1 357 指標 7小時前

This is a real concern for small market teams

国王球迷:这是小球市球队真正关心的问题。

[–]did_it_my_way 453 指標 7小時前

Not a small market team issue, it's a non-contending team issue.

Bucks have ben claiming guys off the buyout market. Cavs had buyout guys when they were contending. Spurs when they were still contending picked up Borris Diaw off the buyout market.

It's not that these players are going to big market teams for the allure of it. This year it just happens to be that big market teams are also the 2 of the best.

这不是小球市球队的问题,是没有竞争力球队的问题。雄鹿和骑士有竞争力的时候也能从买断市场得到球员,马刺当初有争冠实力的时候还在买断市场上得到过鲍里斯-迪奥。所以并不是说球员会由于大球市的诱惑而加盟,只是今年刚好大球市球队和有竞争力的球队重合了。

[–]KingsAdmira1 160 指標 7小時前

I stand corrected

国王球迷:是我说错了!

[–]CelticsPL2285 15 指標 5小時前

People here really underrate that players want to play with LeBron, Harden, KD, Steph (during their dynasty) because you contend and those guys make your life a lot easier and maybe more fun. Wherever those guys played would be destinations for buyouts.

凯尔特人球迷:我觉得这里的球迷低估了球员想要和詹姆斯、哈登、杜兰特和库里(勇士王朝期间)打球的意愿,不仅自己能赢球了,而且这些家伙能让你的生活更简单,甚至变得更有趣。所以无论这些人在哪里打球,都将成为买断球员的目的地。

[–]Ostarah 4 指標 4小時前

I’m sure Steph can open up enough space that even I can make couple of layups a game.

我敢肯定库里拉开的空间,大到放我上去一场比赛都能让几个篮。

[–]NetsOngo_Gablogian___ 90 指標 6小時前

Nets have been bottom feeders until 2019. We were a no market team before then, NYC was a knicks town and Brooklyn was the little guy who got shat on.

Half a season into being a contender and everyone is saying the Nets are some behemoth like the Lakers and we can get anyone just by being in a luxury market. It's crazy to me how quickly people have changed.

篮网球迷:篮网直到2019年为止,一直都是联盟垫底的队伍。在此之前,纽约一直都是尼克斯的城市,篮网渺小到不值一提。成为冠军争夺者半个赛季后,大家都说篮网是能媲美湖人的庞然大物,能吸引到各路大牌球员加盟。外界态度转变得这么快,让我感到太疯狂了。


[–]Freaky-sharkey 5937 指標 10小時前

Drummond on a $28mil contract = horrific.

Drummond on the $800k contract the Lakers are paying him = literally every single team in the league would take him on that contract.

I don’t know why this is so difficult to understand. When grossly overpaid players decide to play for free they start looking good again.

德拉蒙德拿着2800万的合同=太可怕了

德拉蒙德拿着湖人给的80万合同=联盟每支球队都想得到他

我不知道这有什么难理解的,当一个拿着溢价合同的球员决定不要钱打球时,自然看起来性价比高多了。

[–]MavericksAlex_Sander077 255 指標 9小時前

Plus, these are not situations like the Melo thing were he was out of the league for a long time and it even looked like he might retire. Blake and Aldridge have been active. Yeah they're not in the prime of their careers, but getting them that cheap is a total scam. With a team this stacked, with three fucking all stars, these two folks will have all the liberty to succeed in a role player role.

It's as if suddenly anyone could sign Kevin Love for $2mil he'd go from one of the worst assets in the league to one of the best.

独行侠球迷:还有,他们的情况和安东尼还不一样,安东尼都淡出联盟很长时间了,一度看起来都要退役了。格里芬和阿尔德里奇还活跃在联盟,的确都不在巅峰期了,不过这么便宜就得到他们简直离谱。在这样一支本就三巨头扎堆的球队,格里芬和阿德以角色球员的身份就能取得所有成功。给你举个例子,如果突然所有队伍都能用200万签下乐福,那么乐福将从联盟最差资产之一一跃成为最佳之一。

[–]Maverickssaltywings 109 指標 9小時前

Yeah what fucking role players can you get that will have these superstar skillsets at that price? You just can't get it anywhere. Hell, they are obviously past their prime but if LMA got a 40 piece in a game it wouldn't surprise me and Blake is still serviceable especially with needed scoring in a 2nd unit...

独行侠球迷:到哪能用这么低的价格,找到TM的拥有超级球星技术的角色球员?哪都没有!是的,他们明显都过去了巅峰期,但是如果哪场比赛阿尔德里奇砍了40分我真的不会惊讶,格里芬在二阵容需要得分的时候也完全能打啊。

[–][SAC] DeMarcus CousinsSolarClipz 410 指標 10小時前

People don't want to admit NBA is got a flawed product right now

人们不愿意承认现在的NBA是有问题的。

[–][OKC] Jeff GreenVelvetineMilkman 70 指標 9小時前

Absolutely. I just wish I knew what the solution is or had faith that Silver would fix things

雷霆球迷:当时,只是我希望自己知道解决办法,或者寄希望于萧华能搞定这些。

[–]Mavericksstreyer 101 指標 9小時前

the solution would probably involve a ton of restrictions that would never get passed because the star players have too much power and the fans will always unconditionally support them, any kind of fix would just cause both groups to riot. People dont want to admit the player empowerment movement has gone way too far, we are way past players should use their leverage and can demand trades into players can literally pick whatever team they want to play for contracts be dammned and teams should answer to their every demand.

独行侠球迷:解决办法可能会涉及一大堆的限制,几乎不可能被通过。因为球星现在拥有的权力太大,球迷们总会无条件支持这些球星。任何形式的调整都可能导致这两个群体的反抗。人们不愿意承认给球员的权力大过头了,之前只是球员能行使自身权利提出交易申请,而现在已经变成了合同期内指定想去的下家,球队还得满足他们的需求。


[–]SaiyajinGreninja 2288 指標 11小時前

I mean to be fair you used to be a first option on a 30m contract now ur a 5th option on a vet minimum obviously there's a difference

我们说的公平,是你曾经拿着3000万年薪打第一选择,现在拿着老将底薪打第五选择,这是完全不同的啊。

[–]BullsHouse_of_Woodcock 1069 指標 11小時前

yeah this is tortured, woe-is-me logic from Blake, which isn't surprising. His only elite skill now is complaining. To put it straight: he *is* bad at $36 million. He's an absolute steal at $1 million.

公牛球迷:是的,格里芬的逻辑真的太糟糕了,不过毕竟是格里芬也不算太惊讶,他现在唯一的精英级别能力就是抱怨了。直接点说,他拿3600万就是糟糕的,但是拿100万完全就是离谱。

[–]koreanjesus5000 325 指標 11小時前

How is he a steal if his only elite skill is complaining?

如果格里芬唯一的精英级别能力就是抱怨,拿100万也不算离谱吧。

[–]Jcheddz 558 指標 11小時前

Because for 1 mill in the nba all you have to do is dance on the sidelines

可能有的人不知道在NBA拿100万年薪是什么概念,你唯一的工作就是在场边跳舞。

[–]KnicksEndQuick 186 指標 11小時前

Sometimes you might even be required to clap and give high fives

尼克斯球迷:有的时候你还需要鼓掌,以及和队友击掌。

[–]Bulls Tankwagonvitojohn 14 指標 6小時前

Nets pls sign me I give great high fives.

篮网请签下我吧,我的击掌技术一流。

[–]Spursathos45678 6 指標 6小時前

Don’t forget waving towels

马刺球迷:千万别忘了甩毛巾。

[–]Wizardsspandexrecks 9 指標 8小時前

Shit I’ll do that for just $500,000

奇才球迷:艹,给我50万就行,我去干。

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